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03/05/2021 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE

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01:29:33 PM Start
01:30:06 PM SJR9
01:51:27 PM Adjourn
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+= SJR 9 URGE EXEMPTION FOR CRUISE SHIPS TELECONFERENCED
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
          SENATE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                        
                         March 5, 2021                                                                                          
                           1:09 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Mia Costello, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Roger Holland, Vice Chair                                                                                               
Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                            
Senator Elvi Gray-Jackson                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Joshua Revak                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 9                                                                                                   
Urging the  United States  Congress to  exempt cruise  ships from                                                               
certain  provisions  of the  Passenger  Vessel  Services Act  and                                                               
other applicable provisions of federal  law for the period during                                                               
which Canadian  ports are  closed to  cruise ships  carrying more                                                               
than 100  people; and urging  the President of the  United States                                                               
not to fine  or take actions against cruise ships  sailing to the                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SJR  9                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: URGE EXEMPTION FOR CRUISE SHIPS                                                                                    
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) KIEHL                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
02/10/21       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/10/21       (S)       TRA, L&C                                                                                               
02/18/21       (S)       TRA AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
02/18/21       (S)       Moved SJR 9 Out of Committee                                                                           
02/18/21       (S)       MINUTE(TRA)                                                                                            
02/19/21       (S)       TRA RPT 2DP 1NR                                                                                        
02/19/21       (S)       DP: MYERS, KIEHL                                                                                       
02/19/21       (S)       NR: SHOWER                                                                                             
03/03/21       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
03/03/21       (S)       Scheduled but Not Heard                                                                                
03/05/21       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR JESSE KIEHL                                                                                                             
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of SJR 9.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
PATTI MACKEY, President and CEO                                                                                                 
Ketchikan Visitor Bureau                                                                                                        
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SJR 9.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
BETH WELDON, Mayor                                                                                                              
City and Borough of Juneau                                                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SJR 9.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:29:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MIA COSTELLO called the  Senate Labor and Commerce Standing                                                             
Committee meeting to order at 1:29  p.m. Present at call to order                                                               
were   Senators  Holland,   Gray-Jackson,   Stevens,  and   Chair                                                               
Costello.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
             SJR  9-URGE EXEMPTION FOR CRUISE SHIPS                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:30:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO  announced  the  consideration  of  SENATE  JOINT                                                               
RESOLUTION NO.  9, Urging  the United  States Congress  to exempt                                                               
cruise  ships from  certain provisions  of  the Passenger  Vessel                                                               
Services Act and  other applicable provisions of  federal law for                                                               
the  period during  which  Canadian ports  are  closed to  cruise                                                               
ships carrying more than 100  people; and urging the President of                                                               
the  United States  not to  fine or  take actions  against cruise                                                               
ships sailing to the state.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
She  stated that  the intent  is to  hear the  introduction, take                                                               
invited  and  public  testimony  and hold  the  bill  for  future                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:30:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR JESSE  KIEHL, Alaska  State Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska,                                                               
sponsor of SJR  9, stated that this legislation calls  for a life                                                               
ring. In  2019, about 2.25  million visitors came to  Alaska, 1.3                                                               
million of  which were  passengers on  cruise ships.  The tourism                                                               
sector brings roughly  $4 billion in economic  activity to Alaska                                                               
each year.  In 2020, the  tourism figures dropped close  to zero.                                                               
While some  businesses closed, others  have held on  with federal                                                               
help from  the CARES Act  [Coronavirus Aid, Relief,  and Economic                                                               
Security   Act].   Seasonal    employees   relied   on   pandemic                                                               
unemployment   assistance   because   there   was   no   seasonal                                                               
employment. He cautioned  that many of these  businesses will not                                                               
survive without a cruise season this year.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SJR 9  asks Alaska's Congressional  Delegation and  the executive                                                               
branch of  the federal government  for short-term relief  to make                                                               
it possible  for Alaska to have  a cruise ship season  this year.                                                               
He  noted that  he worked  with  members of  the delegation  when                                                               
drafting the resolution.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL said  SJR 9  is not  a request  to make  permanent                                                               
changes  to federal  laws  or lasting  changes  in federal  rules                                                               
designed to  protect American steel  or shipbuilding jobs.  It is                                                               
not an  attack on U.S. jobs  or local control of  tourism. Nor is                                                               
it a COVID  risk. Rather, SJR 9 requests a  waiver limited to the                                                               
2021 cruise ship season, he said.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:37:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEVENS  commented that  it  is  a  good sign  that  all                                                               
members of the committee are  co-sponsors. He asked if the cruise                                                               
lines have confirmed that they will  send ships to Alaska if they                                                               
can legally transit Canadian waters.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL  replied he  is hopeful but  the cruise  lines have                                                               
made no  commitments. He noted that  they also have not  made any                                                               
final commercial decisions but they will do so very soon.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS asked  if coming  to Alaska  represents a  large                                                               
portion of cruise lines' business in a year.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL  replied that Alaska is  about 4.5 to 5  percent of                                                               
the global  cruise business  but Alaska is  a tremendous  part of                                                               
the  business for  lines  that come  to the  state.  He said  the                                                               
primary focus  of SJR 9  is the customers  who come on  the ships                                                               
who  patronize Alaskan-owned  small and  medium sized  businesses                                                               
that employ Alaskans.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:39:59 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO found no further  questions and asked if his staff                                                               
intended to discuss the sections of the bill.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL answered  that his staff was prepared to  do so but                                                               
he  was happy  to  save  the committee  the  time  since all  the                                                               
members had looked at it.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:40:24 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO noted the proposed amendment.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:40:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON   moved  Amendment   1,  [work   order  32-                                                               
LS0503\B.1], to SJR 9.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                 32-LS0503\B.1                                                                  
                                                       Fisher                                                                   
                                                      2/23/21                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                          AMENDMENT 1                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE                                                                                                      
          TO:  SJR 9                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 29, following "actions":                                                                                      
          Insert: "under the Passenger Vessel Services Act"                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO objected for discussion purposes.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL explained  that the  amendment is  in response  to                                                               
public  testimony in  the Transportation  Committee. The  concern                                                               
was that the  clause could be misinterpreted as a  request not to                                                               
fine  cruise ships  for some  gross misconduct  while in  Alaskan                                                               
waters.  This clarifies  that  the clause  is  talking about  the                                                               
federal Passenger  Vessel Services Act laws  that would otherwise                                                               
restrict the transit of these vessels.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:41:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO   removed  her  objection;  finding   no  further                                                               
objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO turned to invited testimony.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:41:58 PM                                                                                                                    
PATTI  MACKEY,  President  and  CEO,  Ketchikan  Visitor  Bureau,                                                               
Ketchikan, Alaska,  explained that Ketchikan could  have expected                                                               
$263  million  in  community spending  from  the  entire  visitor                                                               
industry  in 2020.  About $220  million of  that is  estimated to                                                               
have come from  cruise line business. That  includes $190 million                                                               
in passenger  spending, $70 million  in estimated  crew spending,                                                               
and $20  million from the  cruise industry itself on  things like                                                               
state and local fees, dockage,  and port development assessments.                                                               
The city also  estimates that about 35 percent,  or $4.5 million,                                                               
of the sales tax collected comes from visitors.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. MACKEY said  the cruise industry in  Ketchikan provides 1,350                                                               
direct  jobs and  about $76  million  in labor  income. The  port                                                               
calls initially scheduled  for this year have  already dropped 55                                                               
percent  and passenger  estimates  have declined  even more.  The                                                               
associated spending is expected to drop as well.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. MACKEY  reported that about  90 percent of the  businesses in                                                               
Ketchikan  are either  local or  Alaska-owned and  most have  not                                                               
received any  revenue from their  businesses since  October 2019.                                                               
If there  is a season  in 2022,  these businesses will  have lost                                                               
2.5 years of revenue.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:45:36 PM                                                                                                                    
BETH WELDON, Mayor, City and  Borough of Juneau (City and Borough                                                               
of Juneau), Juneau, Alaska, stated  that having no ships visiting                                                               
last year  was devastating to  Juneau, the Southeast  region, and                                                               
the Interior.  She reported that  CBJ loses $26 million  in sales                                                               
tax and  passenger fees  each lost  cruise season,  not including                                                               
the  associated collateral  costs to  businesses and  employment.                                                               
She  expressed  appreciation  for the  legislature's  efforts  on                                                               
behalf  of  the  communities  that rely  heavily  on  the  cruise                                                               
industry for their budgets and citizens' livelihoods.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS  expressed thanks  to the  Mayor for  hosting the                                                               
legislature every  year and  helping to  provide vaccines  to the                                                               
450 people who work in the capitol building.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR WELDON said she appreciated  the recognition and hoped that                                                               
many would take advantage of the vaccinations.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO echoed Senator Stevens'  comments. She pointed out                                                               
the  letters in  the bill  packets  in support  of and  a few  in                                                               
opposition to the resolution.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:47:56 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO  opened public testimony  on SJR 9.  Finding none,                                                               
she said  she would hold  public testimony open through  the next                                                               
meeting. She asked the sponsor if he had closing comments.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:48:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL  reported the  breaking  news  that both  Alaska's                                                               
senators had introduced legislation to address this issue.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO  asked him  to  share  what  happens to  and  who                                                               
receives a copy when a resolution goes to Washington, D.C.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL  explained  that  a formal  copy  of  the  enacted                                                               
resolution  will  be  sent  to  the  individuals  listed  in  the                                                               
resolution,  including  the  president and  vice  president,  the                                                               
Alaska  congressional delegation,  and all  the other  members of                                                               
the  U.S. Congress.  He expressed  appreciation to  the committee                                                               
members for becoming  cosponsors and said the  number and breadth                                                               
of  the cosponsors  sends the  important message  that this  is a                                                               
one-off step. It  defies political lines and  calls for political                                                               
help to save the Alaska economy in a specific way.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO voiced support for  the tourism industry and noted                                                               
that  the return  on  investment  is about  $35  for each  dollar                                                               
invested.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO held SJR 9 in committee.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:51:27 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair Costello  adjourned the Senate Labor  and Commerce Standing                                                               
Committee meeting at 1:51 p.m.                                                                                                  

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SJR 9 Opposition Valerie Brooks.pdf SL&C 3/5/2021 1:30:00 PM
SJR 9
SJR 9 Support Alaska Policy Forum.pdf SL&C 3/5/2021 1:30:00 PM
SJR 9
SJR 9 Amendment No. 1.pdf SL&C 3/5/2021 1:30:00 PM
SJR 9